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Unlocking Business Transitions – Buying, Selling, and the Future of SMBs with Evan Poling

Welcome back to The PowerTalk Show, powered by BusinessTalksWeekly.com! In this insightful episode, we had the pleasure of hosting Evan Poling, the visionary founder of Biz Retire. Evan's unique background in U.S. bank compliance, specifically with the Bank Secrecy Act, provided him with an unparalleled understanding of business operations across diverse industries. He spent years meticulously analyzing financial flows, supplier relationships, and customer dynamics for hundreds, if not thousands, of businesses. This deep-dive into the intricate landscape of international business laid the groundwork for his current venture: connecting business owners looking to sell with buyers eager to acquire.

Key Takeaways

  • Evan Poling transitioned from bank compliance to business brokerage.
  • 80% of businesses in the U.S. never sell due to various challenges.
  • Cash flow is a critical factor for buyers evaluating businesses.
  • Established businesses have a higher likelihood of success compared to startups.
  • There is a lack of education for business sellers in the market.
  • Due diligence is essential for both buyers and sellers during transactions.
  • Technology is poised to disrupt traditional business brokerage practices.
  • Business brokers typically sell only 20% of the businesses they list.
  • Sellers should view their business as a product for sale.
  • Buyers should be competitive and well-prepared in the market.

Our conversation with Evan delved into the often-overlooked world of small and medium-sized business acquisitions, the hidden challenges of traditional brokerage models, and the transformative potential of technology in this space.

Bridging the Gap: The Mission of Biz Retire

Evan highlighted a critical, yet often unaddressed, problem: 80% of businesses in the United States never sell. He believes this largely stems from a disconnect between sellers and suitable buyers, especially for businesses with under $2 million in revenue. Biz Retire aims to bridge this gap by directly connecting these parties.

The buyer pool for Biz Retire is incredibly diverse, ranging from large private equity firms and venture capitalists to individuals working traditional nine-to-five jobs who are looking to embark on their entrepreneurial journey. This broad spectrum of buyers underscores the varied motivations and resources driving business acquisitions today.

What Do Buyers Look For? Beyond the Brand

When evaluating a business for acquisition, Evan emphasized that investors, particularly those targeting smaller businesses, prioritize cash flow. Buying a business often involves significant loans, and the acquired entity must generate enough profit not only to cover debt servicing but also to absorb potential costs like employee turnover or supplier changes during the transition. A strong reputation, future viability, and a robust financial standing are paramount. While a distressed business might be an option, it requires a very specific type of buyer with the expertise to turn it around.

We discussed the trend of startups burning money for branding and scalability, often with negative cash flow. Evan noted that while brand value is important, the likelihood of success for an established business (5, 10, even 15 years old) is significantly higher than for a startup. Established businesses come with existing customer bases, brand recognition, and a proven track record – a robust foundation that startups inherently lack. This makes established businesses financially attractive to buyers looking for less risk and a more immediate return.

More Than Just Selling: The Untapped Potential of Business Owners

The name "Biz Retire" might initially suggest individual retirement planning, but Evan clarified that the platform's vision extends far beyond a simple transaction. He identified a significant gap in the market: a lack of education and options for business sellers. While the buyer side is seeing a surge of new entrants, sellers often feel their only recourse is to sell through a traditional business broker or simply close their doors.

Evan introduced the concept of a "triangle": buyers, sellers, and advisors. He believes that many business owners, rather than selling, could benefit from consulting with advisors to explore alternatives. For example, a successful owner who has run a business for decades might consider hiring an executive team to manage operations, allowing them to collect a paycheck without the day-to-day demands.

Biz Retire aims to disrupt the traditional broker model. Brokers typically charge hefty commissions (5-20% on a million-dollar sale, or $50,000-$200,000) for simply listing a business, often employing a "list it and leave it" approach with a low success rate (only 20% of listed businesses sell). Biz Retire, conversely, offers a low monthly listing fee, allowing sellers to retain more capital. This extra capital can then be invested in hiring legal counsel, accountants, and other professionals for thorough due diligence, rather than paying a substantial commission to a broker.

Evan argued that a direct connection between buyer and seller (facilitated by Biz Retire) streamlines negotiations, fosters better relationships, and potentially leads to more favorable terms for both parties, as the "broker's cut" is removed from the equation. He trusts that intelligent business owners and buyers can navigate due diligence with expert assistance, without the need for an expensive intermediary.

The Future of Business Brokering: AI and the "Failure Tax"

Our conversation naturally turned to the role of technology and AI in business acquisitions. While AI is currently used to identify potential sellers, Evan noted a hurdle: the baby boomer generation of business owners, often less tech-savvy and wary of cold outreach, lacks trust in AI-driven approaches.

However, Evan strongly believes that mediocre or bad business brokers will eventually go extinct, primarily due to technology. He sees platforms like Biz Retire, which combine the best aspects of listing platforms and traditional brokering without the high commissions, as the future. As buyer and seller populations become more tech-literate, they will recognize that the value traditional brokers bring doesn't justify the exorbitant fees.

Evan introduced the concept of a "failure tax": since brokers only successfully sell 20% of their listings, the successful sellers end up subsidizing the time and effort spent on the 80% of failed listings. This unfair burden on successful businesses will eventually drive owners away from traditional models, shifting the tide towards more results-oriented, tech-driven solutions. Evan hopes Biz Retire will be at the forefront of this industry transformation.

Vision for the Future: Serving the Underserved and Disrupting Norms

Evan's vision for Biz Retire over the next 3-5 years is ambitious. He aims to create valuable tools for owners, particularly focusing on the "underprivileged population" of businesses generating under $2 million in revenue. This niche, though underserved, represents 97% of all U.S. businesses.

Future tools include a "reverse mortgage" concept, allowing owners to understand the cash flow implications for a buyer financing the business at their desired price. He also envisions a robust referral program connecting owners, advisors, and buyers, along with other innovative initiatives designed to challenge existing industry standards.

Advice for Sellers and Buyers

Evan offered poignant advice for both sellers and buyers:

  • For Sellers: View your business as a product you're packaging for sale. Focus on making it as attractive and valuable to the buyer as possible, rather than dwelling on your personal investment or emotional attachment. Also, critically evaluate if selling is truly necessary. Could you hire an executive team to run the business while you enjoy a comfortable retirement, keeping the business within the family?
  • For Buyers: While acknowledging the trend of private equity and venture capital acquisitions, Evan expressed a personal hope that businesses remain in the hands of small business owners who care about their communities. For individuals with executive experience and capital, he advised them to thoroughly understand the buying process, get their financials in order, identify clear objectives, and consider working with advisors or taking classes to become a competitive and serious buyer in the market.

Evan Poling's insights underscore a powerful shift in the landscape of business transitions. His vision for Biz Retire is not just about facilitating transactions, but about empowering business owners with more options and fairer processes, ultimately fostering a more vibrant and accessible market for small and medium-sized enterprises.

In This Episode

00:00 Introduction to Business Connections
02:46 Understanding Business Valuation and Cash Flow
05:37 The Role of Advisors in Business Transactions
08:26 Navigating Due Diligence in Business Sales
11:03 The Future of Business Brokerage and Technology
14:17 Advice for Sellers and Buyers in the Market

“Buyers are looking for cash flow.”

— Evan Poling, Founder, Biz Retire

“Don't buy a business just for profit.”

— Evan Poling, Founder, Biz Retire

“Be a competitive buyer in the market.”

— Evan Poling, Founder, Biz Retire

About the Guest

Evan Poling

Founder, Biz Retire

Evan Poling is founder of Biz Retire, a platform connecting business owners looking to sell with buyers, without the heavy commissions of a traditional broker. His background in U.S. bank compliance under the Bank Secrecy Act gave him deep exposure to the financial operations of thousands of businesses. Biz Retire targets the underserved market of businesses earning under $2 million in revenue — 97% of all U.S. businesses — replacing the traditional 5-20% broker commission with a low monthly listing fee.

Frequently Asked Questions

What is Biz Retire?

Biz Retire, founded by Evan Poling, is a platform that directly connects business owners looking to sell with buyers, replacing the traditional broker's 5-20% commission with a low monthly listing fee — targeting businesses under $2 million in revenue, which make up 97% of all U.S. businesses.

Why do 80% of small businesses never sell, according to Evan Poling?

A disconnect between sellers and suitable buyers, especially for smaller businesses, combined with a lack of education for sellers about their options beyond a traditional broker's "list it and leave it" approach, which only successfully sells about 20% of listings.

What do buyers prioritize when evaluating a small business to acquire, according to Evan Poling?

Cash flow above all — since acquisitions are often financed with loans, the business needs to generate enough profit to cover debt servicing plus absorb transition costs like employee turnover, making established businesses with a proven track record more attractive than startups.

What is Evan Poling's advice for someone selling their business?

View your business as a product you're packaging for sale, focus on making it attractive to a buyer rather than emotional attachment — and first consider whether selling is even necessary, versus hiring an executive team to run it while you step back.

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