In this episode, we had the privilege of speaking with Donovan J. Ryckis, the CEO of Ethos Benefits. Ethos is an award-winning employee benefits consulting firm dedicated to bringing a fiduciary-based approach to employer-sponsored healthcare, a sector that impacts more than 180 million Americans. Donovan’s journey, which began in financial services, led him to recognize a critical problem in the healthcare space—the lack of transparency and an inherent conflict of interest.
Donovan started by defining the fiduciary standard, a concept common in financial services but virtually non-existent in the insurance industry. He explained the difference between a commission-based advisor and a fiduciary. A commission-based professional is incentivized by the products they sell, often receiving higher commissions for more expensive, and not necessarily better, products. Donovan shared a personal story from early in his career: he was making $650 per sale selling a high-priced Medicare supplement, only to find the best product on the market paid him just $125. This was his wake-up call.
A fiduciary, on the other hand, operates on a fee-based model, is fully transparent about their compensation, and has a legal obligation to always act in their client’s best interest, free from conflicts of interest. Donovan realized that the same problematic compensation structures he saw in financial advising were even more rampant in the employee benefits and healthcare space.
The Problem with Premiums
One of the core issues Donovan highlighted is the fundamental misalignment between an employer’s goals and their broker’s incentives. While an employer wants to control costs, a traditional broker is often paid a higher commission as the premium increases. This creates a bizarre scenario where the person hired to save the company money is financially incentivized for the exact opposite.
Donovan offered two key solutions for employers to combat this:
- Demand Transparency: He advises employers to ask their broker how they are compensated and how that compensation changes based on premium growth and plan retention.
- Create a Benefits Committee: He recommends establishing an internal committee—ideally with the CEO, CFO, and a member of HR—to take a holistic, strategic view of the company’s second or third-largest expense. This committee can align goals and ask the right questions about past and future costs.
Aggregating Data, Not Just Products
When asked about the role of technology and aggregators, Donovan pointed out that simply comparing products online is not the solution for complex employer-sponsored healthcare plans. The most important data to aggregate is claims data.
He explained that employers are essentially funding a separate checking account for their employees’ healthcare, but they are often given zero transparency on how that money is spent. The insurance company calls the premium “revenue” and has no incentive to reduce it by correcting billing errors or questioning excessive charges from hospitals. Donovan stressed that access to claims data is the most critical piece of the puzzle, as it allows consultants like him to find the “variable costs” that are driving up premiums.
Shocking Numbers: The Case of the Pinky
Donovan shared a jaw-dropping example of the excessive costs he battles daily. A hospital tried to charge $87,000 for a simple skin graft on a pinky finger, a procedure that did not require general anesthesia. After the insurance company denied the claim due to the excessive cost, Ethos found the same doctor with privileges at an ambulatory surgical center and got the exact same procedure done for less than $3,000.
This single anecdote powerfully illustrated his point: the problem isn’t often the type of care an employee needs, but the outrageous prices providers are charging. By catching just a few of these “large claimants” and redirecting them to more reasonable care providers, Ethos can have a massive and immediate impact on an employer’s overall healthcare costs.
The Mission: To Make an Impact
For the next three to five years, Donovan’s vision is clear and driven by a powerful sense of purpose. He is committed to bringing his fiduciary model to as many American employers as possible. He sees the healthcare cost crisis as a breaking point for both companies and employees and believes that his firm’s approach provides a path to better care and lower costs.
He also sees his work as a way to mitigate legal risk for employers, who are increasingly facing lawsuits related to their healthcare plans. Donovan’s final piece of advice was a reflection of his journey: the more compliant I am with doing the right thing for my clients for the right reasons, the better I do. He believes that when you find a purpose-driven “why” for your business, it will naturally lead to greater success.
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